that was not as good as george w. bush in 2004 he had 44% of latino vote. romney need at least a quarter to a third of latino vote toeshs competitive in states like colorado where the debate is and that kind of thing. real quickly because i want to get to donna on this issue. what does he need to do to appeal to latino voters? >> i think latino voters need to know more about mitt romney. they know very little. precious little about him. the little they do know they don't like. he has begun to change his tone. ep needs to continue doing latino outreach and doing events, doing interviews, doing media, pouring money and resources into paid media and to outreach efforts. >> donna to that point, romney has actually moved closer to president obama on immigration issues just very recently saying he's not is going to rerocky the visas, deport young illegal immigrants under the new law here. does that present a problem to the president if he moves close center >> look we know mitt romney has a pension for etch-a-sketch. he likes to erase his previous statements and